Comments on: IDN’s, ccTLD’s and all the bullshit… http://www.domainstryker.com/idn-domain-names-country-code-domains-cctlds/ Expired domains and auctions Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:59:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Madie Esworthy http://www.domainstryker.com/idn-domain-names-country-code-domains-cctlds/comment-page-1/#comment-617 Madie Esworthy Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:18:16 +0000 http://www.domainstryker.com/?p=2451#comment-617 very informative very informative

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By: rhys http://www.domainstryker.com/idn-domain-names-country-code-domains-cctlds/comment-page-1/#comment-360 rhys Tue, 01 Jun 2010 04:34:25 +0000 http://www.domainstryker.com/?p=2451#comment-360 I invest in IDN's and have a pretty nice portfolio of great Japanese .jp / .com /.net IDNs. Been at it since 2005. Single word, commercial (sweet $/click from Adsense), with proven type-in traffic with some search engine traffic tossed in. I don't feel a need to "sell" anyone who reads this anything - I don't need validation to be invested in IDN's versus just crap ascii's in .biz or ccTLD. What you say about value of IDN's based on the purchasing power of the particular language is quite true. It's sad that some of the commentary here still fails to understand that an ascii ccTLD is not an IDN. It's sad that some dare to class a vietnamese or pashto domain in the same breath as a Japanese one. At least recognize that Japan is as sophisticated as a market needs to be - all the infrastructure one needs is there to monetize traffic. It is one of the top three economies globally with a vibrant and mature internet ad market. So yes, anyone must do their research on IDN's before they buy - and value should always be based on fundamentals. But one should remember that IDN's are not where ASCII is today, the fundamentals and the manner of valuation is necessarily going to be different. I invest in IDN’s and have a pretty nice portfolio of great Japanese .jp / .com /.net IDNs. Been at it since 2005. Single word, commercial (sweet $/click from Adsense), with proven type-in traffic with some search engine traffic tossed in. I don’t feel a need to “sell” anyone who reads this anything – I don’t need validation to be invested in IDN’s versus just crap ascii’s in .biz or ccTLD. What you say about value of IDN’s based on the purchasing power of the particular language is quite true. It’s sad that some of the commentary here still fails to understand that an ascii ccTLD is not an IDN. It’s sad that some dare to class a vietnamese or pashto domain in the same breath as a Japanese one. At least recognize that Japan is as sophisticated as a market needs to be – all the infrastructure one needs is there to monetize traffic. It is one of the top three economies globally with a vibrant and mature internet ad market. So yes, anyone must do their research on IDN’s before they buy – and value should always be based on fundamentals. But one should remember that IDN’s are not where ASCII is today, the fundamentals and the manner of valuation is necessarily going to be different.

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By: guerrrero http://www.domainstryker.com/idn-domain-names-country-code-domains-cctlds/comment-page-1/#comment-289 guerrrero Sun, 09 May 2010 02:33:08 +0000 http://www.domainstryker.com/?p=2451#comment-289 you failed the big picture my friend, local markets are runing away from .com´s (precicely because they are over saturated) and moving more and more to ccTLD´s,, everywhere you go you can see that, but maybe you just dont travel that much. and maybe some markets are not so good for PPC, or not as good as the US, but that doesnt mean that they do not have bussines that are making hefty profits (sell a condo in mexico, or a car in russia by the internet and you are still going to make big bucks) besides, all "developed" countries have reached their percentage penetration rate of internet users among the general population, so they wont be growing much biger, but try latin america, their numbers are soring year after year, and they still have pleanty of room to grow in the years to come. just my two cents.... you failed the big picture my friend, local markets are runing away from .com´s (precicely because they are over saturated) and moving more and more to ccTLD´s,, everywhere you go you can see that, but maybe you just dont travel that much.

and maybe some markets are not so good for PPC, or not as good as the US, but that doesnt mean that they do not have bussines that are making hefty profits (sell a condo in mexico, or a car in russia by the internet and you are still going to make big bucks)

besides, all “developed” countries have reached their percentage penetration rate of internet users among the general population, so they wont be growing much biger, but try latin america, their numbers are soring year after year, and they still have pleanty of room to grow in the years to come.

just my two cents….

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By: Victor http://www.domainstryker.com/idn-domain-names-country-code-domains-cctlds/comment-page-1/#comment-288 Victor Sat, 08 May 2010 19:34:42 +0000 http://www.domainstryker.com/?p=2451#comment-288 Especially IDN's...to me they are BOGUS!!!!! Dot De, Dot US, Dot FM, Dot co.uk will make an impact...and maybe a few others!!!!! Especially IDN’s…to me they are BOGUS!!!!! Dot De, Dot US, Dot FM, Dot co.uk will make an impact…and maybe a few others!!!!!

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By: Shane http://www.domainstryker.com/idn-domain-names-country-code-domains-cctlds/comment-page-1/#comment-286 Shane Sat, 08 May 2010 01:30:28 +0000 http://www.domainstryker.com/?p=2451#comment-286 There is money to be made in EVERYTHING. You just have to be intelligent, creative, and a bit lucky. I realize half of what you say is merely to drive conversation and add some controversy and I'm cool with that. Hell, I am no different. But I use my real name in everything I do and have nothing to hide. Rather than tell a group of people they are stupid, try and make money off their stupidity. Then again it's more fun to just make fun of people. There is money to be made in EVERYTHING. You just have to be intelligent, creative, and a bit lucky. I realize half of what you say is merely to drive conversation and add some controversy and I’m cool with that. Hell, I am no different. But I use my real name in everything I do and have nothing to hide. Rather than tell a group of people they are stupid, try and make money off their stupidity. Then again it’s more fun to just make fun of people.

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By: Phio http://www.domainstryker.com/idn-domain-names-country-code-domains-cctlds/comment-page-1/#comment-285 Phio Sat, 08 May 2010 00:34:36 +0000 http://www.domainstryker.com/?p=2451#comment-285 Hello, I'm sure you've heard all the arguments for and against IDNs and their potential. While it's true that some of my IDN traffic doesn't even earn a penny a click from some foreign countries, and while it's also true that the economic model and infrastructure for internet marketing is immature in most countries -- we are seeing a very strong interest in copying and even 'improving' the American model for making money on the internet, in countries across the globe. American models, such as ebay, amazon, paypal, game sites, poker sites, social networking are being improved daily in most countries. China has a huge internet population, and with sites like and the amount of chinese content on the internet is stunning. The same is true for Russia, Korea and Japan. Thailand and Vietnam are also increasing content on the web by leaps and bounds. Arabic has huge potential, as it is spread across many countries. I have been on the internet since it's inception, and have seen the content grow in non-english languages at a rate that is surpassing English. The English market is fairly saturated at this point in time. If you have a good model for making money on English Websites, you can probably also shift this model to other languages. It's really up to you to see this possibility. Some are totally pro IDNers and some think it is too much of a hassle. Basically we all favor what we have invested in, but that's not the point. The point is, what direction is the internet really headed in. With a little foresight I think we can see what's coming around the corner. I hope you would reconsider selling IDNs with your service, as they will have an increasing value in the future. Regards, Phio Hello,

I’m sure you’ve heard all the arguments for and against IDNs and their potential. While it’s true that some of my IDN traffic doesn’t even earn a penny a click from some foreign countries, and while it’s also true that the economic model and infrastructure for internet marketing is immature in most countries — we are seeing a very strong interest in copying and even ‘improving’ the American model for making money on the internet, in countries across the globe. American models, such as ebay, amazon, paypal, game sites, poker sites, social networking are being improved daily in most countries. China has a huge internet population, and with sites like and the amount of chinese content on the internet is stunning. The same is true for Russia, Korea and Japan. Thailand and Vietnam are also increasing content on the web by leaps and bounds. Arabic has huge potential, as it is spread across many countries. I have been on the internet since it’s inception, and have seen the content grow in non-english languages at a rate that is surpassing English.
The English market is fairly saturated at this point in time.
If you have a good model for making money on English Websites, you can probably also shift this model to other languages. It’s really up to you to see this possibility. Some are totally pro IDNers and some think it is too much of a hassle. Basically we all favor what we have invested in, but that’s not the point. The point is, what direction is the internet really headed in. With a little foresight I think we can see what’s coming around the corner. I hope you would reconsider selling IDNs with your service, as they will have an increasing value in the future.

Regards,

Phio

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By: Mike http://www.domainstryker.com/idn-domain-names-country-code-domains-cctlds/comment-page-1/#comment-280 Mike Fri, 07 May 2010 22:34:36 +0000 http://www.domainstryker.com/?p=2451#comment-280 @ domainer / j / luxnames / whoever you are 1) stop using different aliases, stick to one please ;) 2) i would not recommend to anybody to invest even a dime in idn's at this point, so no idn names will be featured on DomainStryker.com lists ... and i do not have to bullshit anybody in order to make a buck, it's not part of the "marketing plan" 3) use your real name next time or you get banned for good thanks ! @ domainer / j / luxnames / whoever you are

1) stop using different aliases, stick to one please ;)

2) i would not recommend to anybody to invest even a dime in idn’s at this point, so no idn names will be featured on DomainStryker.com lists … and i do not have to bullshit anybody in order to make a buck, it’s not part of the “marketing plan”

3) use your real name next time or you get banned for good

thanks !

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By: Domainer http://www.domainstryker.com/idn-domain-names-country-code-domains-cctlds/comment-page-1/#comment-279 Domainer Fri, 07 May 2010 22:08:11 +0000 http://www.domainstryker.com/?p=2451#comment-279 You claim to be an SEO expert... Marketing your services you failed the golden rule. As a salesperson trying to get more people to use your drop service you have to be able to "bullshit". You have to say IDNs are the next big thing and cha ching money comes in for your lists. You just dissed the entire IDN community and any potential clients in this field. Good work! You claim to be an SEO expert…
Marketing your services you failed the golden rule. As a salesperson trying to get more people to use your drop service you have to be able to “bullshit”. You have to say IDNs are the next big thing and cha ching money comes in for your lists.

You just dissed the entire IDN community and any potential clients in this field. Good work!

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By: Nicco http://www.domainstryker.com/idn-domain-names-country-code-domains-cctlds/comment-page-1/#comment-277 Nicco Fri, 07 May 2010 21:05:06 +0000 http://www.domainstryker.com/?p=2451#comment-277 Yep, you're right - we arrived to late and all we got are leftovers. Worthless dot-be, meaningless dot-lu, confusing dot-cc's, and now unreadable Asian and Arabic characters. However that's just the way the cookie crumbles, no need to get upset. Because with or without dot-com, national ccTLDs and global IDNs are doing fine just the same - thank you. Yep, you’re right – we arrived to late and all we got are leftovers. Worthless dot-be, meaningless dot-lu, confusing dot-cc’s, and now unreadable Asian and Arabic characters. However that’s just the way the cookie crumbles, no need to get upset. Because with or without dot-com, national ccTLDs and global IDNs are doing fine just the same – thank you.

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By: j http://www.domainstryker.com/idn-domain-names-country-code-domains-cctlds/comment-page-1/#comment-276 j Fri, 07 May 2010 20:10:32 +0000 http://www.domainstryker.com/?p=2451#comment-276 P.S. - Rick should ban himself He invested six figures into Weblo (LOL) only to be promised 2 cities. Rick has tons but has to give them up due to the new TOS... Poor investment. He would have been better off with IDNs. P.S. – Rick should ban himself
He invested six figures into Weblo (LOL) only to be promised 2 cities. Rick has tons but has to give them up due to the new TOS…

Poor investment. He would have been better off with IDNs.

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By: j http://www.domainstryker.com/idn-domain-names-country-code-domains-cctlds/comment-page-1/#comment-275 j Fri, 07 May 2010 20:07:37 +0000 http://www.domainstryker.com/?p=2451#comment-275 Yea not valuable to you as you weren't an insider... worthless traffic huh? U.S. is being flushed down the toilet... Japan is the second largest economy and watch out for the behemoth, China... Yea not valuable to you as you weren’t an insider…
worthless traffic huh?

U.S. is being flushed down the toilet…
Japan is the second largest economy and watch out for the behemoth, China…

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By: Mike http://www.domainstryker.com/idn-domain-names-country-code-domains-cctlds/comment-page-1/#comment-274 Mike Fri, 07 May 2010 20:01:34 +0000 http://www.domainstryker.com/?p=2451#comment-274 B... Somebody's gotta keep it real ;) B… Somebody’s gotta keep it real ;)

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By: brian k http://www.domainstryker.com/idn-domain-names-country-code-domains-cctlds/comment-page-1/#comment-273 brian k Fri, 07 May 2010 19:45:41 +0000 http://www.domainstryker.com/?p=2451#comment-273 amen to that you always seem to know how to piss everyone off lol amen to that
you always seem to know how to piss everyone off lol

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